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‘If she wants to expose her kid to that stuff, she can go right ahead’



By Stephen M. Lepore For Dailymail.Com

23:38 22 Jan 2024, updated 01:03 23 Jan 2024

  • Kelly called Reid’s criticism of Moms For Liberty’s Tiffany Justice ‘so frustrating’
  • ‘I don’t want to know about Joy Reid’s weird sexual predilections,’ she added 
  • Reid asked Justice’s ‘expertise’ for wanting inappropriate books out of schools



Megyn Kelly slammed Joy Reid after the MSNBC host criticized the co-founder of Moms for Liberty for advocating banning a book featuring graphic sex from schools.

The host of ‘The Megyn Kelly Show’ – who called Reid an ‘idiot’ on X following the interview – said ‘I don’t know what Joy Reid is thinking’ and called her criticism of Moms For Liberty Co-Founder Tiffany Justice ‘so frustrating.’

‘I don’t want to know about Joy Reid’s weird sexual predilections or what she thinks is okay content for minors, but it’s not the same as what I think,’ she said. 

‘And if she wants to expose her kid to that stuff, she can go right ahead and do it on her own time and her own dime.’ 

The commentator also hit back at Reid for asking Justice her ‘expertise’ in questioning the propriety of the memoir All Boys Aren’t Blue, a title that has been banned in 29 districts across the country.

‘What’s your expertise to make the point that a book about strapon dildos or pedophilia or anal rape by a family member doesn’t belong in K-12 libraries and schools?’ Kelly asked. 

Megyn Kelly slammed Joy Reid after the MSNBC host criticized the co-founder of Moms for Liberty for advocating the ban of a book featuring graphic sex from schools
MSNBC host Joy Reid (left) and Moms for Liberty co-founder Tiffany Justice (right) clashed over book bans during a Friday interview

Reid had questioned Justice: ‘What is the expertise that you have and other Moms for Liberty advocates have to decide that a book, an award-winning book… isn’t appropriate for students read,’ 

Justice shot back: ‘In what context is a strap-on dildo acceptable for public school, I mean that’s my question to you.’

Reid refused to answer that question, instead claiming Justice was unable to name the author George M. Johnson. Justice did, in fact, know the first name of the author. 

Kelly noted that studies have been done to show why this material is inappropriate for kids. 

‘There are tons and tons of academic expert articles and books about the damage done to children by being exposed to content like that too soon,’ she said. 

‘And most good parents are pretty vigilant about making sure our children don’t have access to that kind of thing. We put blocks on their phones if they have phones…all the things and the last thing you want to think is when you send them to school, that’s when they’re most dangerous. 

That’s when they’re most exposed to stories about anal rape and strap-on dildos.’

Kelly insisted that books like this not be put in schools ‘on my taxpayer money when my kid might be sitting right next to her kid reading a nice book about love, about bullies, about history. It’s absurd to pretend it’s a ban, because you can’t get it in your school library!’

Johnson’s ‘memoir-manifesto’ includes a chapter which deals with sexual abuse he suffered as a child, including by a member of his own family. It features graphic descriptions of sex including lube, dildos and anal penetration.

On ‘The Megyn Kelly Show,’ the host – who called Reid an ‘idiot’ on X following the interview – said ‘I don’t know what Joy Reid is thinking’ and called her criticism of Moms For Liberty Co-Founder Tiffany Justice ‘so frustrating’
Reid grilled Justice on her expertise and parental rights. Justice responded, ‘I don’t have to be an expert to know that dildos are not appropriate for public school’

Reid told Justice during the interview: ‘What I am saying to you is you are not an expert in this book.’

Justice replied: ‘I don’t have to be an expert to know that dildos are not appropriate for public school, I mean come on let’s get real.’

Reid asked why shouldn’t a parent whose child might feel seen by this story have the right to let them read it.

Justice countered by saying if a child feels seen by this story that means they have been a victim of a predator.

Reid then accused her of claiming to be an expert again and asked her for proof that a child had been raped. 

A central chapter of All Boys Aren’t Blue focuses on sexual abuse author Johnson experienced around age 13.

In September, Senator John Kennedy read a passage from the memoir during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.

He quoted the book verbatim, telling the hearing: ‘I’d put some lube on and got him on his knees, and I began to slide into him from behind. I pulled out of him and kissed him while he masturbated. He asked me to turn over while he slipped a condom on himself.

‘This was my a** and I was struggling to imagine someone inside me. He got on top and slowly inserted himself into me. It was the worst pain I think I have ever felt in my life. Eventually, I felt a mix of pleasure with the pain.’

During the MSNBC interview, the two discussed an ‘opt-out form’ available in Broward County, Florida that allows parents to say their child cannot check out books from the library without their permission.

The book at the center of the debate was All Boys Aren’t Blue by George M. Johnson, which has been banned in 29 school districts

Moms for Liberty was added to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s list of ‘hate and anti-government groups’ in June. Pictured Tiffany Justice (left) speaking before Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on July 15, 2022

‘Maybe we can just put all the books with all the graphic sexual content, the dildos, the raping,’ Justice said.

Reid said: ‘I’m so sorry, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. I have seen tapes of what Moms For Liberty does, and you all go into school board meetings and you read graphic stuff.’

Justice said: ‘Joy, this is a disingenuous conversation. America used to understand that there’s a thing called age-appropriate content.’

In June, Moms for Liberty was added to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s list of ‘hate and anti-government groups’ after it gained national media attention for its efforts to fight COVID safety measures in schools, book bans, limit discussion about race and LGBTQ identities and populate local school boards with conservatives.

The groups other co-founder Bridget Ziegler has been facing calls to resign from the Sarasota school board after her husband Christian Ziegler was accused of raping woman ‘who was part of their ménage-a-trois.’



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